Comments for MySQL-HA http://mysqlha.wordpress.com MySQL High Availability, Cluster and other stuff we think is important Tue, 04 Nov 2008 19:00:53 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 Comment on Open Source isn’t Open Source if it’s closed by ryanthiessen http://mysqlha.wordpress.com/2008/11/04/open-source-isnt-open-source-if-its-closed/#comment-61 ryanthiessen Tue, 04 Nov 2008 19:00:53 +0000 http://mysql-ha.com/2008/11/04/open-source-isnt-open-source-if-its-closed/#comment-61 As a MySQL Enterprise customer I must say I agree with you fully. I am not interested in a closed source MySQL product at all. There are plenty of good options for closed source databases, and frankly these outperform MySQL by quite a large margin so MySQL could only compete on cost which is a losing proposition in my opinion. I also disagree with Savio's assertion that "deployers often don't need your services or add-ons to scale. They can figure it out themselves, or only a small fraction of deployers will scale big enough to need extra help". Once you have a large mission critical application running on a software platform, paid support is very important. Proprietary vendor platforms also charge $$$ for premium support, so why wouldn't MySQL get similar contracts? It's only a foolish DBA who thinks that he/she knows everything. If I only use MySQL Enterprise support a few times a year it pays for itself quite handily. Even when the product itself is not broken... we had a case on the weekend where a MySQL Support Engineer provided very solid information that helped us *rule out* MySQL as the source of an outage. So no matter now high quality the codebase is, support is still important. As a MySQL Enterprise customer I must say I agree with you fully. I am not interested in a closed source MySQL product at all. There are plenty of good options for closed source databases, and frankly these outperform MySQL by quite a large margin so MySQL could only compete on cost which is a losing proposition in my opinion.

I also disagree with Savio’s assertion that “deployers often don’t need your services or add-ons to scale. They can figure it out themselves, or only a small fraction of deployers will scale big enough to need extra help”. Once you have a large mission critical application running on a software platform, paid support is very important. Proprietary vendor platforms also charge $$$ for premium support, so why wouldn’t MySQL get similar contracts?

It’s only a foolish DBA who thinks that he/she knows everything. If I only use MySQL Enterprise support a few times a year it pays for itself quite handily. Even when the product itself is not broken… we had a case on the weekend where a MySQL Support Engineer provided very solid information that helped us *rule out* MySQL as the source of an outage. So no matter now high quality the codebase is, support is still important.

]]> Comment on Help pay for drizzle.org by Log Buffer #121: a Carnival of the Vanities for DBAs http://mysqlha.wordpress.com/2008/10/27/help-pay-for-drizzleorg/#comment-60 Log Buffer #121: a Carnival of the Vanities for DBAs Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:34:34 +0000 http://mysql-ha.com/2008/10/27/help-pay-for-drizzleorg/#comment-60 [...] the Drizzle development is moving along so rapidly. My thanks to everyone involved.  Monty also puts out a call to help defray the cost of the purchase of the drizzle.org domain [...] [...] the Drizzle development is moving along so rapidly. My thanks to everyone involved.  Monty also puts out a call to help defray the cost of the purchase of the drizzle.org domain [...]

]]> Comment on Drizzle: Now with the InnoDB Plugin by Diamond Notes » Log Buffer #121: a Carnival of the Vanities for DBAs http://mysqlha.wordpress.com/2008/10/28/drizzle-now-with-the-innodb-plugin/#comment-58 Diamond Notes » Log Buffer #121: a Carnival of the Vanities for DBAs Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:51:08 +0000 http://mysqlha.wordpress.com/?p=112#comment-58 [...] week. Beginning with the world of MySQL. Monty Taylor kicks things off, bringing us news of the ability to use the innodb plugin with Drizzle. I just think its great how the Drizzle development is moving along so rapidly. My thanks to [...] [...] week. Beginning with the world of MySQL. Monty Taylor kicks things off, bringing us news of the ability to use the innodb plugin with Drizzle. I just think its great how the Drizzle development is moving along so rapidly. My thanks to [...]

]]> Comment on Drizzle: Now with the InnoDB Plugin by Log Buffer #121: a Carnival of the Vanities for DBAs http://mysqlha.wordpress.com/2008/10/28/drizzle-now-with-the-innodb-plugin/#comment-57 Log Buffer #121: a Carnival of the Vanities for DBAs Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:01:39 +0000 http://mysqlha.wordpress.com/?p=112#comment-57 [...] Taylor kicks things off, bringing us news of the ability to use the innodb plugin with Drizzle. I just think its great how the Drizzle development is moving along so rapidly. My thanks to [...] [...] Taylor kicks things off, bringing us news of the ability to use the innodb plugin with Drizzle. I just think its great how the Drizzle development is moving along so rapidly. My thanks to [...]

]]> Comment on Free Software still isn’t Understood by thpi http://mysqlha.wordpress.com/2008/10/23/free-software-still-isnt-understood/#comment-55 thpi Fri, 24 Oct 2008 01:52:00 +0000 http://mysql-ha.com/2008/10/23/free-software-still-isnt-understood/#comment-55 Don't you think that you need professionals for the sciences to evolve? The bare definition of a professional is related to getting paid. I wonder if movies would've became what they have, if there was no money behind actors (directors, producers, etc). Do you make a living writing code? Would you be as good as you are if you had to live on something else? Maybe there's a healthy middle between everything for a penny and all for free. Don’t you think that you need professionals for the sciences to evolve?
The bare definition of a professional is related to getting paid.
I wonder if movies would’ve became what they have, if there was no money behind actors (directors, producers, etc).
Do you make a living writing code? Would you be as good as you are if you had to live on something else?
Maybe there’s a healthy middle between everything for a penny and all for free.

]]> Comment on When it rains… by Once More unto the Breach http://mysqlha.wordpress.com/2008/10/02/when-it-rains/#comment-53 Once More unto the Breach Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:46:12 +0000 http://mysqlha.wordpress.com/?p=80#comment-53 <strong>Sun Quietly Continues to Support Drizzle...</strong> It seems Sun Microsystems is continuing to support Drizzle. Drizzle is the MySQL fork that was announced at OSCON this past Summer. That said, Sun has been continuing to move developers to work on it internally (Jay Pipes, Monty Taylor).... Sun Quietly Continues to Support Drizzle…

It seems Sun Microsystems is continuing to support Drizzle. Drizzle is the MySQL fork that was announced at OSCON this past Summer. That said, Sun has been continuing to move developers to work on it internally (Jay Pipes, Monty Taylor)….

]]> Comment on 32-bit? Really? by evertrooftop http://mysqlha.wordpress.com/2008/10/03/32-bit-really/#comment-51 evertrooftop Sun, 05 Oct 2008 00:46:39 +0000 http://mysqlha.wordpress.com/?p=87#comment-51 As mentioned on the php mailing list, PHP is said to run better on 32bit systems.. As mentioned on the php mailing list, PHP is said to run better on 32bit systems..

]]> Comment on 32-bit? Really? by mtaylor http://mysqlha.wordpress.com/2008/10/03/32-bit-really/#comment-50 mtaylor Sun, 05 Oct 2008 00:45:24 +0000 http://mysqlha.wordpress.com/?p=87#comment-50 Baron says: http://www.mysqlperformanceblog.com/2008/07/25/the-1-mistake-hosting-providers-make-for-mysql-servers/ Baron says:
http://www.mysqlperformanceblog.com/2008/07/25/the-1-mistake-hosting-providers-make-for-mysql-servers/

]]> Comment on 32-bit? Really? by Ismael Juma http://mysqlha.wordpress.com/2008/10/03/32-bit-really/#comment-49 Ismael Juma Sat, 04 Oct 2008 14:21:41 +0000 http://mysqlha.wordpress.com/?p=87#comment-49 I should also point out that it's pretty easy to run a 32-bit Firefox with 32-bit Flash on a 64-bit Linux. That's what I do. There is also the nspluginwrapper alternative that works on 64-bit Firefox, but I don't know how well that works. If you're focusing on Linux/Mac OS X and new deployments, I would agree with your statement. Ismael I should also point out that it’s pretty easy to run a 32-bit Firefox with 32-bit Flash on a 64-bit Linux. That’s what I do. There is also the nspluginwrapper alternative that works on 64-bit Firefox, but I don’t know how well that works.

If you’re focusing on Linux/Mac OS X and new deployments, I would agree with your statement.

Ismael

]]> Comment on When it rains… by Eric Bergen » Sun’s official support for Drizzle means more than just code. http://mysqlha.wordpress.com/2008/10/02/when-it-rains/#comment-48 Eric Bergen » Sun’s official support for Drizzle means more than just code. Fri, 03 Oct 2008 04:08:01 +0000 http://mysqlha.wordpress.com/?p=80#comment-48 [...] Community Team to be a staff engineer for Sun on the Drizzle project. Monty Taylor also released a similar announcement saying that he will also be working on Drizzle full [...] [...] Community Team to be a staff engineer for Sun on the Drizzle project. Monty Taylor also released a similar announcement saying that he will also be working on Drizzle full [...]

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